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Old 05-30-2012   #11 (permalink)

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When we're incapable to sort out ourselves we should only intervene under certain circumstances. The euro zone crisis being an example. It would affect us more if we didn't help. Natural disasters that affect us should get priority to. China being an example because we import a lot from them.

This may sound selfish but until our countries get back in the green the long term support we can provide will be ineffective. Once we're back on our feet though we can help with the likes of poverty aid ect...

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I think it should depend. A little help here and there is fine. But a government should focus on it's own country and help out every way possible before doing little things for other countries.

For example: Before helping out other countries with homeless people etc, make sure your own country doesn't have homeless people. Set things up/do things to help stop it in your country FIRST, then worry about other countries.
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We give millions of dollars to alot of countries like Pakistain. But when Bin Laden was in there, they got ****ed off because we went into there "Country." And yet our nation is being in depth and all this, that money could be used to get us out.
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I think if we helped ourselves and didnt meddle in stupid wars in countries for no reason then there wouldn't be an issue.

No offence to third world countries at all but its survival of the fittest really. Somewhere along the line they fell behind and that is no one elses fault. I think if the countries pulled themselves together they could fix most of their problems.

Sending 2$ to help an African child may help the child, but not the whole country and they can't expect us to just fund them continuously.

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What really seems to get at me the most is world hunger. The US (and organizations within the US) funds thousands of projects each year for Africa and other countries (I'm aware Africa is a continent) but yet I see few for their own people. I can walk around a big city and see homeless and starving people but yet the government is not doing anything about it. It seems like for the US to actually get somewhere maybe they should worry about themselves instead of others. That may sound selfish but this is the way we got in debt (not worrying about ourselves). I mean sure it's fine to help other countries but whenever you are just putting yourself in debt is it doesn't make since.
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It should all be based on the vote of the majority of the people. Not the decision of a few people in governments.
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Although as human beings we do need to help each other out, it's better for us to help ourselves first. With all of the debt and problems that lie in America, I don't see any reason to keep interfering with other countries, because we're just crippling ourselves. Helping out other countries should be a top priority, but in order for us to do that, things need to change and we need time to recover.
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No, Countries should focus on them selves then maybe we can get out of this rescission some time soon, When there is money to spare and we can afford to spare it, we should donate to other countries. Donation to help out other countries should be seen by them as a gift and by us as a generous act we CHOSE to do not something that is compulsory.

@Lessthan3 We don't help others because they want it, we help others because they need it. Also somewhere along the line they fell behind? They were never the same as us, They are born in a country with few resources, little to eat and drink and have the toughest lifestyle but have to have it because they can't just leave if they don't like it. It is human nature to help one and another, you don't choose where you're born and I'm pretty sure if you were born in Africa that you would want help. They didn't do anything, It's just how the world works.

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That's why governments are separated into different groups. Each group is supposed to tackle a specific problem. The saying "help me, help you" comes to mind. If one country can help another, that one country can now help the first country, and so on.

So I do agree, countries should continue to help each other, so their own specific problems can be worked out. This can also help wars to be subsided...

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What really seems to get at me the most is world hunger. The US (and organizations within the US) funds thousands of projects each year for Africa and other countries (I'm aware Africa is a continent) but yet I see few for their own people. I can walk around a big city and see homeless and starving people but yet the government is not doing anything about it. It seems like for the US to actually get somewhere maybe they should worry about themselves instead of others. That may sound selfish but this is the way we got in debt (not worrying about ourselves). I mean sure it's fine to help other countries but whenever you are just putting yourself in debt is it doesn't make since.
I beg to differ. I live in NYC, i see tens of homeless people on the street and subway often. There are hundreds of help shelters around the city where these people can go. Some choose not to go to these shelters & rather stay in the street.
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Since this argument is completely one sided, let me play the devil's hand. The United States and European countries have very developed infrastructures, nothing like what is in Africa. Here in the United States people fall on hard times, maybe have to sacrifice amenities, even go homeless, but you barely ever, extremely rarely have people starving to death, and you certainly don't have warlords ravaging the street (I'm not talking about Kony, there are more). In Africa and third world countries you don't have any infrastructure at all, and no ability to, they're stuck in the circle of poverty with no escape in sight. Does that mean we should let them die when we have the ability to help them, even if we are in a recession? Why do our lives matter more than others?
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