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Old 08-21-2012   #1 (permalink)
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So I would say I am average at soldering. I am not new. I have soldered LEDs onto an Xbox controller and that was a ***** but I did.
Anyways, I got a DemoN tool from Xconsoles, tried installing it, ****ed it up, sent it back, got a new one and now I am trying to install my new one. Except- I have an issue.
There are 12 or so points that you solder the DemoN chip to. Unfortunately, when I unsoldered my broken DemoN, it brought all the solder with it and now the points won't hold solder. I have tried so much I am pretty sure I just burned the living **** out of the points.

I bought a new soldering iron that is actually nice but I still can't tin(?) the points. It just won't work. I think there is an alternate way to connect my DemoN but I am unable to find it since Team Xecuter banned me from their forum for asking for help the first time it broke.

If anyone has any help, I will greatly appreciate it.
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Way to completely **** up your points bro

The ONLY way you're going to be able to make that connection is by using some flux to clean off the points and allow the solder to make a more solid connection to the points (this is assuming there is still a point left to connect to).

If you have fried them completely, the only way to make an electrical connection is to uncover the trace leading to the point and solder directly to it; a technique that is to be used only when necessary because it can be very damaging and is very difficult in my opinion, as trace metals don't contact with solder too well.

Good luck Travis but I've messed around with all of this stuff back in the day and I've made my fair share of mistakes and learned from them, this being one of them. You might be completely screwed here bud.

Edit -- If you're desperate to make it work; think in terms of pure electricity and connectivity. By that, I mean this: those holes are just that, holes, so while a connection may not be a strong one, the right amount of solder and the right metal connection forced through the hole might be enough to do what you're looking to do. I've had small successes with that and a ****load of electrical tape. Be careful, too much solder and you'll fry the board just as easily as letting lightning strike it would.

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Way to completely **** up your points bro

The ONLY way you're going to be able to make that connection is by using some flux to clean off the points and allow the solder to make a more solid connection to the points (this is assuming there is still a point left to connect to).

If you have fried them completely, the only way to make an electrical connection is to uncover the trace leading to the point and solder directly to it; a technique that is to be used only when necessary because it can be very damaging and is very difficult in my opinion, as trace metals don't contact with solder too well.

Good luck Travis but I've messed around with all of this stuff back in the day and I've made my fair share of mistakes and learned from them, this being one of them. You might be completely screwed here bud.

Edit -- If you're desperate to make it work; think in terms of pure electricity and connectivity. By that, I mean this: those holes are just that, holes, so while a connection may not be a strong one, the right amount of solder and the right metal connection forced through the hole might be enough to do what you're looking to do. I've had small successes with that and a ****load of electrical tape. Be careful, too much solder and you'll fry the board just as easily as letting lightning strike it would.
Thanks for your encouraging words there Lolvo.
Can you go to the Team Xecuter forums under DemoN support and see if they have an alternate point diagram. I think they do but I can't get it since I am banned.

I will do anything to make this work. It's my RGH and I don't want to **** it up lol
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if you screw this up you should throw your xbox out the window.
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if you screw this up you should throw your xbox out the window.
Thanks. This looks much easier.

If I throw it out the window, will it work?
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Thanks. This looks much easier.

If I throw it out the window, will it work?
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You can actually see if the point goes through the motherboard and solder on the opposite side. But make sure you can see if the point goes all the way through and its not a different one. I burnt my jtag point for the nandx and we had to use the opposite side to make it work.
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if you screw this up you should throw your xbox out the window.

He screwed up soldering to the original points, but you expect he'll be able to solder to the nand pins? Not a good idea.

Want my advice? Don't solder to the nand, because the nand pins are much smaller than the points you already messed up. I can almost guarantee you'll bridge a pin and screw up your xbox.

I've got a decent amount of soldering experience, and I even have a hard time soldering directly to the nand.

Try what lolvo said. Or better yet, send it to a professional.
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He screwed up soldering to the original points, but you expect he'll be able to solder to the nand pins? Not a good idea.

Want my advice? Don't solder to the nand, because the nand pins are much smaller than the points you already messed up. I can almost guarantee you'll bridge a pin and screw up your xbox.

I've got a decent amount of soldering experience, and I even have a hard time soldering directly to the nand.

Try what lolvo said. Or better yet, send it to a professional.
He didn't have desolder braid and he tried to take off the old one because he broke it.
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